Tuesday, February 05, 2008

Notes On The Super Bowl

A tip of the hat to Jason L. Maier, for saying something on his blog that did two things: the first was that it made me want to write about last night’s World Championship Of All Football; and the second was that it got me to start thinking about last night’s game, and some of the stupid things I have heard local sportscasters defecate orally regarding said game.

Here’s what Jason said, in a blog post titled “Biggest Choke”:

“Yep...that's right, the Patriots (who went undefeated for the entire season) lost on Sunday night to the Giants. If that game were played 10 times, I would say the Pats win 7 of them, but this is a ONE game championship...and the G Men were the better team last night.”

What it made me think was that the number he gave is way low. I would say that the correct number is closer to 999 times out of 1000 - and it’s not because I love the Patriots or anything. It’s because, quite simply, the helmet completion to David Tyree is a once in a lifetime kind of play.

It’s the deep shot to center field that bounces off Jose Canseco’s head and goes into the stands for a home run. It’s Dave Winfield cracking a monster shot that hits and kills a bird in midair. It’s Keith Smart hitting a baseline runner as time expires (okay, that’s not all that rare, but I had to give a little love to Hoosier Nation, right?)

Eli Manning scrambled away from, I think, all eleven New England defenders, three coaches, the guys carrying the sticks, the line judge, and Pam Oliver - and he does this without getting sacked. If that had been Peyton Manning, he would have been creamed corn. Ashley could have carried him home in a Tupperware container. You want to have some fun? Put Jeff George against Peyton Manning in a scrambling contest. It’d be like watching paint dry.

But I digress. Eli Manning scrambled away, which was in itself amazing, then got off a good throw, which was even more amazing - and then that throw was caught, partially by a helmet - and that was even more amazing still. That set up the touchdown pass to Plax Burress that put NYG ahead for good - and you may never see another play like that again as long as you live.

It probably doesn’t make New England fans feel any better - it wouldn’t make me feel any better if it had happened to the Colts - but that doesn’t make it any less true, and it doesn’t take away from what NYG accomplished last night or what New England accomplished every night prior to last night.

And now to some other thoughts. First, all of this talk about how this was the greatest Super Bowl of all time. Um...what? Granted, I haven’t seen them all - and some of them took place before I was alive - but I’ve seen a few. Last night’s game had a great fourth quarter. Prior to that, it would have been accurate to dub it the Super Bore. It was 7-3 after three quarters - and this from the most prolific offense of all time and a team that contains a Manning. A record number of lead changes in the fourth quarter and handing New England their only loss of the season does not the greatest Super Bowl of all time make.

No, I don’t have many examples of better ones - although last year’s was probably better, and I seem to recall that the Cowboys-Steelers game in Super Bowl XXX (1996) was pretty good, too - but a game in which the first three quarters were boring as hell does not, I don’t think, qualify as the best Super Bowl of all time.

What else...oh yes, the nonsensical ramblings of local sports wonks who, for reasons passing understanding, actually get paid for their verbal diarrhea. If I hear one more of these overpaid twits complain about Bill Belichick running out onto the field before the game was over, I’m going to sell all of my Colts things and replace them down to the item with Patriots gear.

Did anyone besides me happen to notice the game clock after Brady’s last pass? No? You missed it? All you saw was Belichick and then you started warming up the tar and feathers? Time to catch you up. The guy running the game clock was apparently having some sort of fit, because the clock ran down to zero...then went back to one second...then went to two seconds...and kept on like that for a bit. ESPN’s play-by-play record shows that the time remaining when Eli took the knee was one second. And Belichick wasn’t the only one running onto the field, either. There was clearly confusion about how much time remained, and Belichick simply made an error.

First he’s a bad guy because he won’t shake hands...and now he’s a bad guy because he was in too much of a hurry to shake hands? Apparently the poor guy can do no right. You can’t really blame him, though. He’s probably exhausted. It’s got to wear a guy out packing all that Super Bowl hardware on his fingers, you know?

They just had to make sure they got that last second taken care of properly. Arlen Specter just might put together a commission to look into NFL anti-trust issues. Maybe he can bring in Mitt Romney as a consultant - he'll need something new to do after Tuesday night.

Oh, and as for the biggest choke? This was not it. That would be Greg Norman at the Masters in 1996. Or the Colts three weeks ago against the Billy Volek-led Chargers - the Colts choke so much they should get rid of that horse and use a likeness of Mama Cass as their mascot. Or Michael Andretti in any Indianapolis 500 in which he led at least one lap. You can’t call it a choke when you have a play like the helmet catch happen to you - it’s like what happened to the Chicago Cubs in the 2003 NLCS when Bartman interfered with that play. (Granted, the Patriots didn’t help themselves when the DB covering Plax Burress fell down - but by then they had already been served a big plate of goofy, and there wasn’t a lot to be done about it.)

When Cubs fans say “wait until next year,” we don’t really mean it - we know nothing is going to change. Patriots fans can say that and feel good about the fact that they’ll have another shot at the Super Bowl next year - and since Tony Dungy announced that he’s going to continue coaching, the Patriots can relax and know that they won’t have to worry about being seriously challenged by the Colts.

18 comments:

Prime Mover said...

Nice post. A couple of comments that I was going to do on my own blog to circumvent the drunken tap dancing on Pats fans grave post that I shouldn't have put up. But hey, I was drunk and I can't stand the Pats.

Best Super Bowl? Almost, I kind of agree with the Steelers/Cowboys Super Bowl except for the fact that Neil O'Donnell thought Larry (I was waaay overpaid) Brown was on his team and threw two of the worse pics ever in Super Bowl history. The rest of the game I though was a formality, there was never a thought in my mind that the Cowboys would lose

I actually think Super Bowl III Jets/Colts game was probably one of the best, nobody gave the Jets a shot at winning.

Super Bowl 36, as much as I despise the Patriots that was a great Super Bowl from start to finish and I would rank #2 in terms of upset and play making on both teams, unless something comes of this new allegation.

This Super Bowl was a offensive struggle for both teams and was great to watch only because I have never seen Brady rattled as much as he was. The fourth quarter was unbelievable on both sides. I actually didn't think it was a snooze fest. There was some bad blood and some hard hitting going on. This was no country for old men type football. This was smash mouth "fuck you" football. I kind of enjoyed it myself.

As for the Tyree catch? IMHO was the best catch ever in Super Bowl history. Not only did Manning escape just about everyone but to chuck it to a fourth string wide receiver and him catching it with his helmet with RODNEY HARRISON firmly on his hip was unbelievable. I can't believe that roid eating cheap shot artist let him catch it. There was no way five years ago Tyree made that catch against him, he would be breathing through a tube right now. It was just weird to see Harrison, Mr. Enforcer, try to slap away listlessly at the football like Monty Burns trying to open a can of prunes.

Belicheck running off the field? I kind of disagree, yes there was confusion, I agree. He knew there was a couple of seconds left on the clock because the ref met him at midfield and told him there was. He didn't care, he left his team on the field. He was running off the field like George Costanza pushing away women and children to get out of a burning building. You lose with class and you win with class, Belicheck does neither. I remember when the Colts won last year and Belicheck did a half ass congrats to Dungy and did a bee line away from Manning to go to the lockers. Later when interviewed by Solomon Wilcocks he was fuming like a 8 year old that just had his toy taken away. He is THE reason I hate the Pats. Vrabel is classy, Brushci is classy and except for that last arrogant statement by Brady before the Super Bowl he is classy, the coach is not.

Speaking of....why did the Pats lose? One word, Karma. The team trademarked 19-0 before the game was played. The Pats were over confident and arrogant in thinking that the Giants couldn't beat them. There is (or was) a book on Amazon.com titled 19-0 chronicling the Pats perfect season. Also, Patriot players were inviting the Giants to their super bowl victory parties, and Seymour told the entire Giants offense to get ready to go home during the last Giant drive. You just don't do that. That's complete arrogance.

Could the Pats beat them 999 out of 1000? Well, the Giants were a couple of Manning INTs away from ending the Pats perfect season the first time, and that was without a couple of key guys on defense. They played them close, it wasn't like they were the Redskins, the Giants do have talent. I actually think if they played them 10 times the Giants would win four of those games. But the Giants were the better team that day. You could say, rightly, that the G men were lucky, but luck also played a factor in the Pats first couple of Super Bowl wins. The third was was outright, no luck involved in that one.

Spygate part Deux? Doesn't it kind of smell like a cover up? If Goodell came out with what was on those destroyed tapes and said they had nothing to do with the Pats winning their Super Bowls I would be satisfied. But he didn't, he shouted down anyone who asked, it really smells like a cover up. Do I think Specter should be sticking his nose in this? No, but I do want to know what's going on. And if there is cold hard proof that the Pats taped that walk through I would stick a big fat asterick on the 2001 Super Bowl. If not, then I will shut up and call it one of the best ever.

The future of the Pats? Well, their aura of invicibility is gone, teams are not going to be afraid of these guys. And let me tell you, the teams that they ran up the score on will be ready. Don't get me wrong they will still be a tough out but the key guys will be a year older and are pretty much over the hill football wise, rebuilding might be in their future in the next couple of years.

As for Dungy, I agree.

mmaier2112 said...

"and since Tony Dungy announced that he’s going to continue coaching, the Patriots can relax and know that they won’t have to worry about being seriously challenged by the Colts."

Ouch. But one does wonder...

The best was EPSN's DJ Gallo:

And now, another priceless pep talk for Peyton Manning:

"Worried that your coach might be retiring? Understandable. You've had success together. But don't sweat it. You call all of your plays at the line of scrimmage anyway. You could be coached by a gerbil."

Shane M. White said...

That's a pretty rude comment about Dungy. He led us to a Super Bowl. He led us back from 21-6 down to the Patriots in the AFC Championship Game. He has an amazing record. He's a proven coach. How does this not challenge the Patriots?

Rude comment, very very rude.

Unknown said...

1- Touche' on the Mama Cass reference. It's a good thing I swallowed my tea before reading that or else my new lap top would have been toast. Can't get enough Cass references.

2- It's funny, I must have slept through the day when the US govt. actually solved the problems in the US. You know the ones: high gas prices, homelessness, poverty, John Travolta still making movies, you know the important issues that are really bothering the US. This is what infuriates me about the govt. Doesn't matter Republican or Democrat they are all a bunch aholes!
3- Shane I actually enjoyed most of your post on your blog, but who is US???????
4- Romney is going down fast, he must be richer than I thought.
5-The Giants wanted it more. They were the team that ripped the ball away, made the ridiculous catches, etc. Also there was talk the Pats D was talking smack at the line of scrimmage after the Moss TD.
6-I'm fine wiht the loss. Although I will be totally honest, I couldn't stand watching Peyton cheering.
7-It will be an interesting off season for the PATS. Coach B, Samuel, Moss, Seau, Harrison, etc.
8-Pitchers and catchers report next week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GO SOX!

Last King of SCOOTland said...

OK, my turn to get in on this. A few reactions to your reactions.

1. As for 999 out of 1000, I think that might be a little high, but not much. I would say the G-Men would win 5 or 6 of the 1000.

2. As for the Tyree catch, am I the only one that is more amazed at how strong his hands were? watch the play again. As he's falling down, with Harrison (who is perfectly defined above by Prime Mover as the dirty player he is)attacking him, he takes the ball in one hand then secures it with his two hands as he hits the ground and has Harrison hit his arm twice. Think about it. We many times see similar starts to catches. Guys pin it against their face mask, or shoulder pad, or whatever, and then it bounds away as soon as they reach the ground, or they are touched by a defender. He never used his body (other than the head) to help with it. It was amazing to me.

3. While he is not Vick, and probably would not have gotten away from that sack, I think Peyton is better at moving in th pocket than people give him credit for. There is a reason he has been sacked less than any QB in the league over the past 8 seasons and it aint just Jeff Saturday.

4. As for the boring first 3 quarters, to me that is like people that think pitching duels are boring. Points don't have to be scored for it to be exciting. I, myself, loved watching "Golden Boy" get his ass kicked for 3 quarters. Also, at least for me, there was far more tension in this game that in many others I've seen. I think it was a far better game than last year, mostly because after quarter 1, the Bears left the field. For me, the best was the Montana to Taylor game, followed by this and the Pats/Rams games tied for 2nd.

5. Yes, I agree, all local sports radio people are idiots, and should all be shot.

6. FUCK BELICHICK. He is an arrogant ass. He is the closest thing to Bob Knight there is in this world. Which of coarse means if I liked the Pats, I'd love him. As for this particular event, yes it was confusing at the end. I actually thought it was over as well. However, he was stopped before getting to Coughlin by referee Mike Carey and told there was still time left and he forced his way by. He then LEFT!!!! What the fuck is that? What, is he the Bad Boy Pistons after they realize they are going to lose the Bulls? He's a fucking child that cries and whines when he doesn't get his way. As many people, myself included, are. However, I make no bones about being way overly competitive. But you can not justify what he did. Say what you want about his coaching ability, but Tony Dungy would not have done that and that is because, at least on the field, he is a better man that Belichick is. Bill might be the nicest guy in the room away from football, again, like Knight. But on the field, he is an arrogant, whiney, BRILLIANT, child. Oh, and Bradshaw, Jerry Rice, and Lynn Swann didn't get so tired from putting on their 4 rings, so why is he with 3?

7. As far as chokes go, I would definitely put this behind Norman and I would also put it behind UNLV/Duke (but again, at least they got their new SUV's) as far as chokes, but I think it is worse than Colts/Chargers. Granted Rivers and LT were both out which makes it closer, but this was the highest scoring team in the history of the league and they moved the ball once through 3 quarters. That is a choke job. Was it aided by the Giants playing the defensive game of their collective lives, yes, but still, you can't average 35 or whatever, get 14, and not have it be a choke. At least not in my opinion. And you can call it a choke with the helmet play, just like you can't with the Cubs play, because neither of those particular plays won the game. The Cubs, 3 pitches later, had a routine double play ball hit their gold glove short stop in the glove that would've ended the inning, no harm done, and he boots it. The Giants still had to go 35 more yards against the most over-rated defense in history to score a "must have" TD. Yes, obviously, momentum was swayed in both instances. However, great teams; the early 00's Yankees, the previous SB winning Patriots, etc. would've still made the plays to win. If you are mentioned as the greatest team ever, you take the lead with under 3 minutes left, you force the other team to have to score a TD, and you let them....that is a choke. And you sure as hell don't bight on an inside fake when everyone in the nation knows a fade to the corner is coming.

8. Why so anti Dungy? I am honestly curious? I think he has done a great job re-building the defense and he is smart enough to keep away from the offense. I will agree that he is a lot too conservative at times, but he had nothing to do with the loss to the Chargers, in my mind. Our team thought that game was won. They were already thinking about what they were going to have to do to beat NE. Now, if that is his fault for letting his team be so unfocused on the task at hand, fine, but that means then that the Pats loss in the SB was largely Belichick's fault, which actually, I am OK with.

9. Lastly, a minute to ponder Tom Brady. I wonder if he will get the same flack that other big game losing QB's have gotten for this or if he'll get a pass because he's Tom Terrific and has the other 3 rings. To a certain extent, I think he deserves a pass, for that very reason. Also, he was harassed by the best pass rush I've ever seen in a Super Bowl. However, he did have some chances to make plays, and with the exception of the TD to Moss where the defender fell down, he made none of them. Yes his guys dropped some balls, but still. Montana never had a bad game in THE game like that. Neither did Aikman, or Bradshaw. I'm not saying that he is now a second tier guy, but he was viewed as perfect and he was very un-perfect on the games biggest stage. Maybe people should slow down before they, as he, himself said in an interview with Bradshaw, carve his head into a Mt. Passmore. Again, just my opinion.

OK, Thanks for writing a post. I was wanting to comment on the game and such but couldn't come up with a way to organize my thoughts. Your post, and the great comments (especially from Prime Mover) got me headed down the right path. John-O of the northern village, I thank you. You are very wise. And, really one of the few people I get to talk sports with.

Scoot-crest Out.

Prime Mover said...

Shane, Scoot:

Yeah, your right, Dungy is class and he did win one for us just last year. With me though I just can't get that bad taste out of my mouth that Dungy was out coached by Norv Turner. It's just infuriating to watch such a good coach get out schemed by such inferior talent, especially from back ups, that's why I got so down on Dungy. After thinking about it and reading your posts I would much rather win one ring from a class guy than 3 rings from such an insufferable, no class, sore loser/winner douchebag like Belicheck.

Unknown said...

Well, I hope you enjoy the ONE ring with a classy coach. How exactly does that work. How does Tony Dungy being a class act affect your being a fan (this isn't directed at one person in particular). OK Bill may be the biggest horses ass this side of Bobby K, but would I rather be a fan of a 3x SB champ with a jerkoff coach than a fan of a one time SB champ with a "great classy coach". Bill being a dick to people doesn't keep me up at night anymore than Tony being a great guy helps you sleep at night.

John Peddie said...

To Scott's points 3, 4, and 8:

3. Not just Saturday, true. It was also Tarik Glenn (both zip codes worth of him), Ryan Diem, Jake Scott, Tony Ugoh - guys like that. And also because Adam Meadows decided to retire. Maybe I should have qualified that by saying that part of why he's not very good at scrambling is because he rarely has to do it.

4. I can see your point here, but like I said, with it being New England and a team containing a Manning, I was hoping for more firepower (and fewer third-down attempts). Also, I think baseball by its nature (no transition, no turnovers, no clock) makes it more conducive to a prolonged defensive struggle. In baseball, you can take the time to out-think your opponent; in football, it's kill or be killed - and so the very nature of the game itself demands an offense-first mindset.

8. As for being anti-Dungy, I acknowledge that he (along with Bill Polian) has done a great job building the defense and, generally, making this team better than it has ever been. But for a team with so much talent at so many positions, better simply is not good enough. With the exception of the three playoff games last season, they just don't get up for big games. Also, Dungy allows the game to come to them - remember how well it worked for Neville Chamberlain? The Colts don't come out gunning and looking to put fear into the heart of their opponents. The strategy of letting the game come to you, in and of itself, is not a bad one - but it's for lesser teams, teams that are not able to come out gunning for the jugular. The Colts are one of the few teams in the league capable of coming out on their first drive and scaring the other team stupid, but that's not the way they play. If Tony Dungy thinks that's what Jesus would do, that's fine. I hear the mission bell calling! Bring me someone - oh, say...Jon Gruden - who will unleash this team's killer instinct and elevate this team to its proper place as the best team in the league.

The only - ONLY - reason the Colts have not been able to do that since Manning passed for #49 is ineffectual leadership. The blame falls largely on Dungy, but partly on Manning - and for each, it is their only fault.

(Well, okay...Manning probably doesn't need to do quite so many commercials. You're not exactly hurting for money or fame, and we the people could certainly do with much less of the good ol' boy schtick. We have way too many rubes in this country as it is - look at how many states Huckabee won! - they sure as hell don't need a poster boy.)

Tony Dungy does many things well, but there is one thing he does extremely poorly - and that is preparing his team for the big game. They might not say it publicly, but I would bet that, privately, any Tampa Bay Bucaneer who played for both Dungy and Gruden would agree, if perhaps grudgingly. It took a new coach to get the Bucs a Super Bowl, and if the Colts hadn't lucked into playing the worst NFC champion in a long time, they might very well still be on the outside looking in.

I had begun to hope that the Super Bowl win last season had finally helped this team turn a corner, but that turns out not to have been the case. Josh has said it a couple of times in different posts - he still gets that sour taste in hs mouth over the Colts. So do I.

I think there can be no argument regarding the talent of the players on the field - we've all seen what they are capable of doing. I also think that the Colts and Patriots are far and away the two best teams in this league - and that they're not that far apart in terms of talent. So why have the Colts only beaten New England once in the playoffs? Why have the Colts won only one Super Bowl?

Are they unABLE, or unPREPARED? If they are unable, then it's time to re-evaluate the talent; if they are unprepared, then it's time to re-evaluate the coaching.

Last King of SCOOTland said...

I will 100% agree with you on the lack of aggression. That is one thing that does bother me about Dungy. I remember one of our losses in Foxborough, I believe it might have been Peyton's record year, and late in the game, down 9, and on the Patriot 48, we punted, as though the D had been able to stop anyone all year. This is bad coaching. It is a bad decision, and it is one that great coaches, Walsh, Belichick, Holmgren, Shula, eetc. don't make. I'll agree there.

Also, I would agree that someone like a Gruden might be fun to watch with this offense and his aggressive nature. I just think Dungy gets too little credit for the wins (people, including me, gave 99% of the credit for last year to Peyton) and too much blame for the losses (the Colts are very much one of those teams where the coordinators call the plays. It was Ron Meeks who called the plays that allowed SD to move the ball with back-ups, not Dungy). I know that is the nature of the beast and all.

I also agree with the game preparation thing, but ultimately, these are grown men. They really shouldn't need their coach telling them what this game means. I, again, say that the SD game was totally on the players. They were going through the motions.

I guess I would say this: name me 3 guys you'd rather have than Dungy. I can't do that. Gruden would be interesting, but other than that, who? For that reason, I am glad we have Dungy. Also, keep in mind, when he does leave, it's gonna be Jim Caldwell, and he is very much a Dungy guy.

John Peddie said...

I don't know if there's a good answer to that or not - the "3 other guys" question. I suspect that Manning is awfully set in his ways, and that it may be too late in his career for him to master a new system. Maybe if he weren't a good ol' boy from the south?

I'd love for it to be Gruden, just because I think it would be funny as hell to see him swoop in with a second team and clean up Dungy's sloppy seconds. It would also help to demonstrate what seems to me to be obvious - that, though he's good, Dungy is not Darwin's gift to coaching, as a lot of Colts fans make him out to be. Yeah, he's the best coach the Colts have ever had - but what people maybe forget is how low that bar was set prior to Dungy's arrival.

But the best answer is Jeff Fisher, for two reasons. One is that he's got the fire in his eyes, isn't afraid to call the risky plays, and has the respect of his players. The other, perhaps more important reason, is that he has had to play the Colts twice a year now for, what, going on ten years? And he's had success against the Colts, which shows that he knows how to game plan for Colts weaknesses.

Godfather Weilhammer said...

I don't believe Dungy is the problem. It's Blue, that damn mascot. You've seen him, standing there, waddling his behind to and fro. He marches around that arena like he owns the place and what does he have to show for it? A T-shirt cannon and a DEFENSE sign. We sit here and question the capability of the coach when the problem was right in front of us, helping some fat guy throw a football into the back of a miniature dumptruck or beating another mascot. Extreme situations call for extreme measures...Blue must be replaced.

Last King of SCOOTland said...

I am 1,000,000,000% on board with the Jeff Fischer call. In fact, John-O, I think you and I should start the campaign to get Jeff Fischer. He is the most under-rated coach in football. There is average talent in Tennessee yet even when they are not good, they are one of the toughest teams to play in the league. I agree that he would make the tough call and that he is brilliant at game planning. I wonder what kinda hype he might be getting if he had the talent on the Pats, Colts, or Cowboys. I also really like Jack Del Rio. He makes tough calls, like waiving Leftwich and going for it on 4th and 8 against the Pats. I'd take him too.

Wonder Woman said...

Sh%t happens ;-)

mmaier2112 said...

Shane: "That's a pretty rude comment about Dungy. He led us to a Super Bowl. He led us back from 21-6 down to the Patriots in the AFC Championship Game. He has an amazing record. He's a proven coach. How does this not challenge the Patriots?

Rude comment, very very rude."

I think of two things when I think about Dungy.

1) He was flat-out an affirmative action hire. He would NEVER have been interviewed had it not been for the NFL's idiotic "You must interview a black coach for every opening or get fined $40K." rule.

If he was such a great coach, he would have been on the short list.

2) He doesn't control his team. His defining on-field moment for me was sending out the punt team and having Peyton shoo them off and go for it on a 4th down. I can't recall the particular game, but Dave said "Way to cut off your coach's ball on national TV, Peyton!". I totally agreed. Dungy didn't even looked pissed off IIRC.

Prime Mover said...

Jmdmsms,

Yeah, I can sleep better at night knowing that, a lot better. Think about this big boy, in the last 3 years your team has been ousted in the playoffs by Jake Plummer (retired)and two Mannings. Ha! Greatest team ever my ass. Plus if this whole taping of a walk through actually comes to fruition, slap a big 'ol astrick on your first Super Bowl win. See, I like integrity, I like sportsmanship. I like it when coaches win and lose with class and dignity. I don't like it when coaches run up the score, act like they are above the game, act like horses asses and leave their team on the field pissed off they lost like a fucking five year old. Plus, if I'm not mistaken, I don't think Dungy has stolen anyones wife lately.

Yeah Dungy has his faults but he's won a Super Bowl, something that a lot of great head coaches never achieved.

Unknown said...

How 'bout you post something when Dungy wins his third...... Dungy is overrated, so I wouldn't have diarrea of the mouth over a guy that can't win a game at home against a Chargers team without Rivers, LT or Gates.

Prime Mover said...

Man your bitter. I mean "post something when he wins his third." So can Yankee fans say to Sox fans "post something when you win your 26th?" You as a Sox fan should know how difficult it is to win one championship, I thought you would be a little more appreciative of the Colts winning one. Besides, didn't the Pats just get their perfect season ripped from them by a very average quarterback, wide receivers and defense of the Giants? And didn't they get out coached by freaking Tom Coughlin, who's brain is still thawing from the Green Bay game, and who was about to get fired at the beginning of the season? Besides, Brady was looking pretty fucking average against the Bolts. So let me get "diarrea of the mouth" by my overrated coach and you can stick to your cheating douchebag of a coach and we'll call it even. And like I said before, if something comes of Spygate II, we'll see about the legitamacy of the first Super Bowl win.

Unknown said...

Actually I agree with you. If the coach cheated, fire him, fine him, and ban him. I'm not bitter. We'll just agree to disagree.